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As teenagers, Craig and Phil both dreamt of becoming actors. Aged 18, Craig joined an open-air touring production around the UK in which he played Romeo in Romeo and Juliet: 鈥�I fell hopelessly in love with the actress playing Lady Capulet. She was Canadian so she couldn鈥檛 stay; I decided to follow her to Canada where we got married and I worked in television.鈥� But much like the play, 鈥�it all fell apart鈥�. He returned to the UK where he pursued his love of theatre but this time in directing which led him to his role of Literary Manager at the Donmar Warehouse. 鈥�My role is to work with writers on the development of plays and with the artistic directors on the production ideas and concepts. At the moment I am working on a Macbeth revival with David Tennant so we have been talking about the aspects of the play we want to highlight, including a new technological intervention, yet to be announced鈥︹��

Phil鈥檚 story is a little less dramatic. His acting mentor advised him: 鈥�don鈥檛 become an actor, you鈥檙e good but you will struggle.鈥� Following this advice, he studied Contemporary Theatre Practice in Glasgow and went on to join the National Theatre of Scotland on their shows touring the country. 鈥�When I was offered a role in the Participation department of the Donmar Warehouse, I had no real desire to work permanently within a building-based theatre. I quickly realised how much I loved it as there was endless creative potential, and how essential it was for the Donmar to make an impact with schools and communities.  This was 6 years ago, and now I am the strategic lead on schools, community, and talent. During that time, we鈥檝e set up Donmar Local and now even work on main-stage projects.鈥�

It鈥檚 impossible to think about the theatre today and ignore the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on the performing arts. Phil notes: 鈥�We dug deep instead of falling back. We opened our rehearsal site to host communities that needed the space. With local young artists, we created productions including the film 鈥樷�� made in response to the Black Lives Matter movement. It highlighted the value of engaging art for well-being.鈥�

Craig and Phil report that there has been a decrease in online engagement since things have returned to normal: 鈥淭here鈥檚 something so special about the live act. In the last few years, we鈥檝e seen the doors of our theatre flung open and people have engaged in our conversation.鈥� On the rise of cancel culture and subject sensitivity, Craig further notes: 鈥淭heatre doesn鈥檛 cope well when it鈥檚 didactic. In fact, going to the theatre makes you a better citizen because it invites you into the company of people you don鈥檛 know. The Donmar Warehouse is unlike anywhere else, it is the most demographic auditorium in London with just 251 seats and an audience on three sides of the stage.鈥�

Of the many performances Craig has witnessed, Old Times, one of the first shows he saw at the Donmar when he was just sixteen remains the most memorable. For Phil, the recent Next to Normal production stands out: 鈥�It challenged the perception of what a musical was. In collaboration with the play, we were doing work around well-being and mental health with A-level students, and they were being so open and generous to each other about their own mental health. It shows theatre is a catalyst for change, not just 鈥榡azz hands.鈥欌��

In fact, the Donmar recently expanded the age range of students they work with to address the diminishing presence of art courses offered in schools and universities: 鈥�We believe talent development starts in schools.鈥� With the Arts Council England鈥檚 funding cuts and cost-of-living crisis, philanthropy is more crucial than ever: 鈥�Philanthropy is key. It gives us the ability to plan. We want to do everything in a way that鈥檚 strategic, long term and that has a clear legacy, whether it鈥檚 for our shows or through the work we do with young people. Additionally, it helps us go beyond what the market wants, push boundaries, and bring in a bigger number of voices together.鈥�

The 草榴社区 currently supports the Donmar Warehouse with a multi-year grant of 拢200,000 towards its 2023 and 2024 productions.